Christianity offers great rewards for those that submit to and
endorse its agenda, which is to spread itself and dominate all
other forms of spiritual belief.
It also offers threats of terrible punishment for those that fail
to comply with its demands.
The reward of heaven and the threat of hell have worked wonders
in coercing people over the centuries.
Christian believers will point to the New Testament as the
authoritative source for their certainty on key spiritual issues.
Many Christians will often preach to unbelievers about how they
are filled with the Holy Spirit and how Jesus operates through
them when they surrender to him and let him be Lord over their
lives.
They chirp about being new creatures in Christ, along with having
the mind of Christ.
They boast about the amazing wonder working power of the
Holy Spirit and consider themselves to be the earthly agents of
God, with the authority and power to overcome the sinful secular
world.
However, they are also quick to offer excuses when the grand
promises of Jesus that appear in the New Testament don't line up
with reality.
In particular, Jesus promised that believers would display some
signs of the wonderful power that infests the faithful when they
accept the Gospel, become filled with the Holy Spirit, and invoke
the name of Jesus to work miracles.
Such is the case with Mark 16:16-18, which makes some
grand promises about believers.
Mark 16:14-18
14-Afterward he(Jesus) appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
15-And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16-He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17-And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18-They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Obviously, apart from the claims of faith healing sects and TV
preachers that insist they can cast out devils and heal the sick,
there aren't any Christians that can do these things.
Babbling in tongues is too easy to fake, so that
"miracle" can probably be removed from the list.
Even if only a small percentage of Christians were actually able
to do these things, hospitals and mental wards would be put out
of business in fairly short order.
Anyone that watches television, uses the internet, or listens to
radio knows that the pharmaceutical drug companies are doing a
booming business these days, and have been for years.
That presents a problem for Christians because according to
Christian myth, Jesus can never make a promise that isn't true.
That's because believers operate under a very simple rule that
eliminates the need to think beyond cult doctrine.
In this cult world, Jesus is a universal everything and
everything in the universe revolves around Jesus.
Therefore, Jesus and the Bible can never be mistaken or wrong
about anything.
Having put on that mental strait jacket, believers must then
alter the failed promise so that it can be true.
This is accomplished by claiming that Jesus wasn't really saying
all(or even most) believers would have the ability to perform
miracles, but only a select few of them would have that ability
and only for a very limited time period.
Christian position:
In Mark 16:16-18, Jesus is not talking to crowds of people but is
talking only to his eleven disciples.
Jesus gave them special powers that were to be used in the 1st
century to advance the faith.
This promise was not meant for all believers.
The "them that believe" is limited to the eleven
disciples that were in this presence.
The fact that Jesus did not use words such as "you that
believe" instead of "them that believe" is not
really important.
Jesus did not intend for skeptics to come along and put words in
his mouth because they want to find errors.
Commentary:
This is a typical Christian apologetic ploy.
They'll decide what's important and what's not important.
Christians today can't perform these signs so Jesus couldn't have
meant what he said.
According to apologists, Jesus really meant to say something like
this:
"Whoever among those of you here right now
that believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever among those
here right now that does not believe will be
condemned.
And these signs will accompany those of you here
who believe: In my name YOU will drive out demons; YOU will speak
in new tongues; YOU will pick up snakes with YOUR hands; and when
YOU drink deadly poison, it will not hurt YOU at all; YOU will
place YOUR hands on sick people, and they will get well."
Or, an alternative rationalization might simply claim that verse
16 applies to all believers, while verses 17 and 18 only apply to
the eleven disciples that were listening to Jesus make this
speech.
In other words, it's an apologetic manipulation of the scripture.
Then the apologist accuses the skeptic of trying to put words in
Jesus' mouth.
According to this rationalization, the eleven disciples got the
industrial strength Holy Spirit, while the rest of Christianity
gets the watered down version that won't do these things, except
to perhaps babble in tongues.
Also, by trying to limit the promise to the eleven disciples,
this apologetic rationalization overlooks St. Paul, who worked
miracles and wonders without having ever met Jesus.
Paul was so potent a miracle worker that when he touched cloth,
he infused it with magical healing power that drove away both
diseases and demons.
Acts 19:11-12
And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or
aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits
went out of them.
Paul claimed that he was not the least bit inferior to the eleven
disciples, also known as Apostles, even though Paul had not known
Jesus. (2 Cor 12:11-12)
Paul also claimed in Gal 2:14 that some of the Apostles
did not walk correctly in the Gospel.
There were also many others that performed miracles.
Stephen was yet another believer outside of the inner circle that
performed miracles. (Acts 6:8)
In Luke 10:1-20 there are 72 unidentified people that
worked miracles.
Jesus also assured these 72 people that their names were written
in heaven.
Claiming that the promise given by Jesus in Mark 16:17-18
was restricted to only the eleven disciples, should be classified
as deceptive apologia.
Christian position:
Jesus was scolding his disciples for their unbelief in him and
told them they would have special power to perform miracles if
they believed. Their salvation also depended upon this.
Commentary:
The eleven disciples already had special powers given to them in Mark
6, which was long before Jesus made the speech to them in Mark
16:16-18.
This speech was also made after Jesus was resurrected, but prior
to this event Jesus declared that the disciples had sure
knowledge and belief that he was from God, and that none of them
had been lost except Judas.
John 17:8,12
For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and
they have received them, and have known surely that I came out
from thee, and they have believed that thou
didst send me.
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name:
those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them
is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture
might be fulfilled.
It's little wonder that some of the eleven may have doubted what
had happened at the resurrection event.
According to the Gospel of Luke, they didn't even understand what
it meant.
Luke 18:31-34
Then he(Jesus) took unto him the twelve, and said unto them,
Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by
the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked,
and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:
And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third
day he shall rise again.
And they understood none of these things:
and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things
which were spoken.
According to Luke, the eleven had to wait until after the
resurrection for Jesus to open their minds to understand it.
Luke 24:35
Then he opened their minds so they could understand the
Scriptures.
It's somewhat odd that Jesus would be scolding the eleven.
Jesus was scolding the disciples for doubting and not
understanding something that they wouldn't be able to understand
until Jesus had altered their minds to comprehend it.
According to the Gospel of John, the disciples must have already
believed enough in Jesus to qualify them for the gift of the Holy
Spirit.
John 20:22
And when he(Jesus) had said this, he breathed on them, and saith
unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
It makes little sense for an apologist to claim that Jesus, in Mark
16:16-18, meant his promise of miracle working power would
only apply to the eleven disciples, if they believed.
Jesus gave them that power the very first time he saw them after
his resurrection.
Their salvation was already accomplished.
Christian position:
Mark 16:17-18 is clearly not promising that all believers would
perform miracles.
Nor is there any other scripture to be found in the Bible that
makes such a claim.
It must be painful for skeptics to learn that one of their
cherished arguments against Jesus and the Bible is unfounded and
completely deluded nonsense.
Your embarrassing performance will not be easy to live with.
True Christians have God on their side and skeptics have only
their sick, fallen nature to rely on.
Commentary:
This is a nice example of deception, wishful thinking, and
spiritual jingoism.
When Christians like this boast about God being on their side, it
must embarrassing to have to tell a sick dying child in a
hospital that the amazing Holy Spirit power of God will not be
able to heal the child as Jesus promised.
When faced with reality, Christians can only impotently quote
scripture and tell the dying child that they'll pray to Jesus for
them to get well soon.
Perhaps Jesus is too busy making media appearances on burnt
pieces of toast or projecting his image on panes of glass to take
time out and work actual healing power through his faithful
believers.
What a pathetic joke these cult members are.
Many preachers and professional apologists are also afflicted
with this malady and they operate under the assumption that the
Bible is actually only a rough draft of God's Word.
The final version of God's Word is really found inside their
skulls, where they mentally rewrite the Bible, taking out the
parts they don't like and inserting qualifiers to alter the text
into something that conforms with their desires.
They'll decide what the Bible means, and then try to foist their
"wisdom" on to the masses, often for a price.
Many Christian apologists consider themselves to be God's
editors, and have no problem claiming to be ordained by the
Almighty to do their noble work.
However, the promises found in Mark 16:16-18 clearly
indicate that sweeping powers would be given to believers and
these verses were not an anomaly.
There are many other verses that reinforce the promises made in Mark
16:16-18.
Jesus promised that belief was the magical ingredient that made
all things possible.
This is exhibited in the Gospel of Mark.
Mark 9:23(speaking to a non-disciple)
And Jesus said to him, `If thou art able to believe! all
things are possible to the one that is believing;'
Also from the Gospel of Mark:
Note in the following that Jesus doesn't restrict this promise to
the eleven disciples and promises a vast array of possible
miracles for simply having faith and believing in God.
Mark 11:22-23
And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
For verily I say unto you, That whosoever
shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe
that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall
have whatsoever he saith.
Jesus also stated that a small amount of faith would go a long
way.
A believer can do great works with only a tiny amount of faith.
Matt 17:19-20
Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not
we cast him out?
And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I
say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard
seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to
yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be
impossible unto you.
In this next passage, Jesus promises wondrous miracle working
power.
If one believes in Jesus and calls for something in his name, it
will be granted.
The believer will be able to do even greater works than those
done by Jesus, because doing these works will glorify God.
John 14:12-14
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth
on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and
greater works than these shall he do; because I go
unto my Father.
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do,
that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will
do it.
There are no restrictions or qualifiers limiting this promise to
the immediate disciples or only to those that lived during a
certain time period.
The NIV Bible renders this as "ANYONE who has faith in
me".
The ESV Bible renders this as "WHOEVER believes in me".
The NLT Bible renders this as "ANYONE who believes in
me".
The Message Bible renders this as "THE PERSON who trusts
me".
Those apologists attempting to claim that the promise made in Mark
16:16-18 only pertains to the eleven disciples are
demonstrating their lack of faith in what Jesus said according to
John 14:12.
Perhaps they aren't "true" Christians after all.
Also, if two believers are in agreement, great things can be done
because Jesus is with them.
Matt 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as
touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them
of my Father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am
I in the midst of them.
Note that Jesus promised to be in the midst of believers gathered
together in his name.
The verse does not say:
"Where two or three are gathered together in my name, I
will be with them, but only if they are alive during a certain
time period."
Jesus did not restrict his promise to one generation or a select
group of believers.
Some apologists will extend the power promised by Jesus in Mark
16:16-18 to include the eleven apostles and their immediate
disciples.
(Notice that the list of wonder working people grows as holes in
the original argument are exposed.)
While this is more workable, it suffers from many of the same
serious flaws as before.
Christian position:
No one today has the power of the apostles and their disciples.
The apostles were baptized by the Holy Spirit, giving them power
along with gifts of healing, languages, and all understanding.
The apostles alone, and no one else, could lay on hands and pass
that power on to others.
Commentary:
These statements are still just excuses for the inability of
Christians today to perform the wonder working powers that Jesus
promised to those who believe.
It also implies that the Holy Spirit which believers are supposed
to have today is an inferior version of what was given to the
apostles and some "others" living at that time.
Jesus did not have caveats that restricted those powers to one
generation.
In John 14:12, Jesus told his disciples that anyone
having faith would be empowered.
Having faith was the key, and did not depend on when a person was
born or who touched them by laying on hands.
The Book of James instructs believers to have church elders heal
the sick.
Faith is the key to performing miracles, not what time period a
person lived in.
James 5:14-15
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church;
and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of
the Lord:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick,
and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins,
they shall be forgiven him.
In the following, Peter is telling believers that they are
partakers of the glory and power of God and the great promises
apply to all of them, not just a select few.
2 Peter 1:1-4
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them
that have obtained like precious faith with us through the
righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of
God, and of Jesus our Lord,
According as his divine power hath given unto us all
things that pertain unto life and godliness, through
the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious
promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine
nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the
world through lust.
With regard to the claim that only the apostles alone, and no one
else, could lay on hands and pass Holy Spirit power to others:
Paul was a self-anointed apostle, but he wasn't one of the
eleven, nor did any one of them lay hands on him to give him the
Holy Spirit.
It was a man named Ananias that laid hands on Paul and gave him
the Holy Spirit. (Acts 9:17)
Ananias wasn't one of the eleven apostles, and the Bible doesn't
say when Ananias was converted to Christianity.
Stark reality is the reason why Christians are forced to dilute the
promises of their own Lord and Savior in order to rationalize the
failure of his words to manifest themselves.
The failure of Jesus to return as he promised is what really
drives the apologetic.
In this case the failed promise of Matt 16:27-28 helps
ensure a failure of the promise made in Mark 16:16-18.
Believers can't do what Jesus promised in Mark 16:16-18,
so the promise must be diluted.
Jesus stated that he would return prior to the death of all of
his disciples. (Matt 16:27-28)
If Jesus had actually made good on his other promise to return
sometime in the near future, the apologetic for Mark 16:16-18
wouldn't even be needed.
Christians today wouldn't be faced with the problem of explaining
why Christians can't perform the miracles Jesus gave them the
power to do.
However as it stands, Christians have to do a contorted tap dance
by claiming Jesus didn't promise miracle working power to anyone
in future generations, and that Jesus didn't really mean
what he said about returning before all his disciples had died.
Also, it should be noted that according to Rom 2:11, Acts
10:34, and Eph 6:9, God does not show favoritism, and
restricting the promise of miracles to a few people not only
violates that edict, but waters down the Holy Spirit power
promised to all believers.
The Holy Spirit of today is only a pale shadow of what it once
was.
Naturally, none of this will make a speck of difference to an
apologist, who has to undo the promise made by Jesus because it
obviously isn't true.
Another effort to rationalize the promise of Mark 16:16-18
uses an alternate translation.
Christian position:
In Mark 16:16, the words "believeth" (pisteusas) and
"baptised" are past tense participles.
The word "believeth" (pisteusasi) in Mark 16:17 is a
past tense verb that describes those who have already believed,
not those that would believe at some future time.
Therefore, Jesus was only talking about believers at that point
in time, which were the eleven and possibly a few other minor
disciples that were already believers.
Commentary:
This explanation doesn't do a thing to solve the problem of St.
Paul, and others that performed miracles, who were not part of
the charmed circle.
But since they were obviously part of the promise, exemptions
have to be made for them.
Who determines where the exemptions start and stop?
Why does the Holy Spirit power die out after one generation?
Where does Jesus impose a statute of limitations on the promise,
saying that it was null and void after a certain date?
Keep in mind that Jesus promised to return prior to the death of
the current generation and that promise FAILED.
Once that promise(Matt 16:27-28) failed, the promise in Mark
16:16-18 also becomes exposed as a failure.
That's when the scramble to find excuses starts.
Young's Literal Translation of these verses does use past tense
language, but it isn't limited to the words
"believe" or "baptize".
Mark 16:15 also uses past tense.
In the following, the audience is the eleven disciples.
Mark 16:14-15(YLT)
14-Afterwards, as they are reclining (at meat), he was manifested
to the eleven, and did reproach their unbelief and stiffness of
heart, because they believed not those having seen him being
raised;
15-and he said to them, `Having gone to all the world,
proclaim the good news to all the creation;
Although the text of this translation uses the past tense word "having",
the disciples hadn't yet gone preaching the gospel to all the
world.
The word "proclaim" in this case means a future
action.
All the conditions and promises that follow this verse are
predicated on the gospel "having" been preached.
Mark 16:16(YLT)
16-he who hath believed, and hath been baptized, shall be saved;
and he who hath not believed, shall be condemned.
This verse states that those who believed and were baptized
shall be saved.
Who is this referring to?
It's referring to those that believed the gospel as it went out
to all the world.
When this speech was given, it had not yet gone out to the world,
despite the word "having" being used by Jesus.
In the future, once having heard the gospel, those that
had believed and were baptized would be saved.
Mark 16:17-18(YLT)
17-`And signs shall accompany those believing these things; in my
name demons they shall cast out; with new tongues they shall
speak;
18-serpents they shall take up; and if any deadly thing they may
drink, it shall not hurt them; on the ailing they shall lay
hands, and they shall be well.'
In the name of Jesus, those believing the gospel would work
miracles.
There isn't anything here that restricts this promise to the
eleven disciples or to just a few people.
The New Testament does contain a few attempts at damage control
with regard to Mark 16:16-18.
One example is found in 1 Cor 12, where St. Paul states
that believers receive different gifts from God, and some
believers can only do a certain types of miracles.
Paul even admits in 1 Cor 12:29 that not all believers can
work miracles.
This does defuse the problem of the failed promise to a certain
extent.
Apparently, at that time, some people were doing miracles and the
promise was at least partially true.
However, Jesus didn't say only some believers would be able to
perform miracles.
Jesus pointed to faith as the grease that lubricated the engine
of miracle working power, even if a person had faith as tiny as a
mustard seed.
Paul's attempt at damage control does very little to rectify this
problem.
If a believer could not perform at least one of the miracles that
Jesus mentioned was possible, and he said virtually anything was
possible through faith in him, then their status as Christians
should be called into question.
Pope John Paul II, the Vicar of Christ on earth himself, was
wracked with disease.
It seems the Pope couldn't even heal himself, much less empty out
any hospital of its infirm patients.
Nor could anyone in the entire Catholic, Protestant or Christian
world come to the Vatican and heal the physically degenerating
Pope.
The popular faith healer and strutting, miracle working Christian
peacock Benny Hinn was nowhere to be found.
If there are supposed to be over 1 billion Christians in the
world today, then there should be more than enough of them to
empty hospitals and mental wards of their suffering and tormented
patients.
Even if only 10% of believers could perform acts of healing and
cast out demons, that would still equate to millions of wonder
workers available to ease the suffering of physical ailments,
disease, and mental illness.
Yet, there are no stories of Holy Spirit filled Christians going
into hospitals on Sundays and clearing out the sick by the laying
on of hands and the power of prayer.
I've been to a nursing home many times and most of the old people
there suffer terribly for years before they die.
They spend their last years in agony, pumped full of medications
until they finally expire.
There are plenty of Christian churches near the nursing home and
Christians do stop by the nursing home to drop off Bibles and
other propaganda, but not a single one of them can heal the sick
or really stop the suffering.
All they can do is "pray" and tell the old folks that
unless they accept Jesus as their savior, they'll go to hell.
Many Christian believers can often be found gathered together on
Sunday at NASCAR races, munching on hot dogs and yelling loudly
for their favorite "chariot" driver to cross the finish
line first.
Perhaps their time could be better spent manifesting food for the
poor from a few loaves and fishes as Jesus did.
It seems that Jesus wants them to go to modern day Roman chariot
races on Sunday rather than display the wonder working power of
God in hospitals or food banks. It's really quite amazing. Who
would have thought it?
Jesus decided that NASCAR events were more important than
spreading the word and glory of God by doing the miracles that he
promised his faithful followers would perform.
This is nothing more than a farce and modern Christianity is a
vapid testimony to the truth of the New Testament Bible and the
power of faith in Jesus.
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